Really, that story has been told a million and one times for the last 50 years. He claimed they were in the middle of a sex act, he would get distracted, something would happen, he just kind of went crazy, he had snapped; and almost blaming the victims. But as the play goes on, you begin to think that maybe that's just another lie. I'm starting to feel a little bit better about my fellow man. My father's trying to, like, reach out to him. By the way, that's reporter [Latif Nassar 00:30:59]. Certainly friends of his did. Bonobos. Maria Matasar-Padilla is our managing director. He is a soldier. Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of a bad person. And then, walks away from his child and his wife dead in the garden and says-. Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. Trivalent. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial. Because the thing that you put into the ground to grow more food is also the thing you can explode to make a bomb? An experiment is being conducted in the elegant interaction laboratory at Yale University. According to James, he is not the baddest-. Yes. And then Othello goes and kills his own wife, smothering hew with a pillow. I'm going to resign.". And actually two nations in South America went to war. Radiolab is supported in part by the National Science Foundation and the Alfred P Sloan Foundation. So, the subject seemed willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say it's an order. But there's been a fellow, I've been thinking about him for the better part of year, as you know-. There's trench warfare, it gets bogged down and Haber has an idea. And every scenario produced a different result. And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution.". Well all right, I'm starting to feel a little bit better about my fellow man. So wait. We need to put it under a lot of pressure. Under extreme, extreme pressure. I invited him for dinner. And why I cared for her because I dated her before, but this day didn't turn out right. My point is sometimes when we ask the why in the face of profound evil, I kind of wonder if what we're doing is that we're daring God to show himself. And he finds her actually still alive, with the life about to run out of her. You're going to keep giving what? It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. Let's begin with this story from our producer Pat Walters. He would say over and over again. One of those very tiny, old fashioned, uh, pair of glasses that would pinch on your nose. So, here's the interesting thing. Up until that point, Gary refused to say that "From the minute I picked these women up I wanted to kill them." Can we really know that? Ear drums, God. Gary said, "I needed to kill them," they go, "Why?" Now, of course you could find some nitrogen out in the world. And is found by her son. With AI, blockchain, and quantum technology, IBM is developing smart, scalable technologies that help businesses work better together. But the generals were not all that convinced. Was he trying to make a commentary or something? More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. ", Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he'd served in World War I-, But 75 percent of the people who worked for him at the institute, they were Jewish-, And says, "This is intolerable. Do we know? After all he knows what he can stand. Well, the thing that haunts me about the why question that I'm reminded of one of the oldest stories in the Bible, which is the story of Job. The- the last time she- she was in a hurry. And he is basically homeless at this point. Haber, it's unknown what happens for the rest of the evening, but it is a well documented fact that the very next morning-. Yes. In a way we wait for it still. It's part mix tape, part sonnet love letter, kind of like a daily musical journey into other human lives. Jeff Jensen's book is the Green River Killer: A True Detective Story. I knew what he was capable of, so I suggested that we go out for a walk. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. ", And Satan is like, "Well I bet I can change his mind." But it's suspected that it could be upwards of 75. And 91% of the men said yes. So read these words that you see here. Listen to free wherever you go to podcast and sign up at openearsproject.org. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. But we thought we would- we would play this show, uh, about a little bit of bad that is in all of us. Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a free audiobook. Just because of a mathematical summing up. This is what's driving the world towards 10, 12, by 2050. Year 2003. Chimps. I don't know that you could entirely call him bad, I might even tilt towards saying he's a little good, to be honest. My dorsal hair stood up when I read the end of this. For when the subjects didn't want to continue? We have nothing. I mean it's a fact, of course, that they're administering pain to a stranger, that's what's horrifying about it, but imagine they were administering pain to themselves. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. There's a sort of chilling comparison which is a speech that Himmler gave to some SS leaders when they were about to commit a range of atrocities. Jeff Jensen's book is The Green River Killer, A True Detective Story. In fact, his chemist had given this particular pesticide a smell. Many of them after they were murdered. Come over now.". no one has ever said about a sex tape that I've ever you know. What he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. September 15, 2022 Radiolab for Kids and WNYC Studios present Terrestrials, a six-episode miniseries hosted by Lulu Miller (co-host of Radiolab . All rights reserved. And to make the problems even more annoying. This is basically what Stanley Milgram set out to test. It's 0924 hours on June 17th, year 2003. And my father wasn't buying it. What you know-". Bread from the air was the phrase 'cause Haber had figured out a way to take nitrogen from the air, put it into the barren ground, and grow wheat. "Well why can't you deal with it in a normal way?". More energy than seemed, like, possible to make. We encounter a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil, turn to one of the most famous (and misunderstood) psychology experiments ever, talk to a man who chased one of the most prolific . Thanks. This is Everybody was desperate for sources, new sources of nitrogen. But he does it with a kind of, uh, amoral athleticism. Yeah. But he is a large, very strong man with a black belt in karate. He would give all his baddies at least one moment where they could be understood. And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution. He has these pince-nez spectacles. He felt publicly humiliated. And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. To find page after page of yeses. Accuracy and availability may vary. Like, is that something that's universal? This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. And there is no doubt that today's plants and animals carry the genetic legacy of ancestors who fought fiercely to survive and reproduce. It's absolutely essential. ", Meanwhile, later that night on the other side of town-. I've been thinking about him for the better part of a year as you know. And not just yeses. And it's kind of surprising. Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation-. On the other hand, I mean, if you look at the grand calculus, people he's helped or fed, versus people he's killed, I mean he's fed billions of people. And actually, this wasn't just the German thing. And it gets even more disturbing for my father as the conversation suddenly pivots to another victim. Like, he didn't intend for that to happen. Yeah. And at the very end of the play when everyone finds out what Iago's done, Othello asks him, "Why? Just tiptoes out, just from time to time. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. And my father wasn't buying it. That's Stanley Milgram talking about the experiment in a film. I got those all at night, mostly. Yeah, I agree with that. Go on please. Well he started fuming that his wife had dissed him, and-. Podcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? Very distinctive looking man. [1] Radiolab was founded by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich in 2002. We will begin with this test. I'm Jad Abumrad. Yeah. Hi, my name's Josh and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. Yes, and he did too. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you an un-understandably evil man, no motives, no reason; any idea what the hell he was intending? But what if something's happened to the man. So, my father and the other interviewer in that room that morning, Detective John Natson, they start using a line of, uh, uh, a tact of, uh, uh, of interviewing him that was very-. So these are some word pairs. He's a master planner. David always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. Look, the participants, it's not just blind obedience, "Oh you tell me so, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". You know, you're not the first person that's ever done this. But Haber saw it as a wonderful success and wished- wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it because he felt like they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. So basically, at 6 p.m. on April 22nd-. He believes in me and he trusts me and so much. Stanley Milgram took electric shock very seriously. In that moment, my father, he stands up and he says-. You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. In case you've never heard of this, probably have, but in case you haven't, here's what he did. He was t- very aggressive. His calculation showed that it couldn't be done. We just need a whole lot more of one simple element. And almost like blaming the victims. In Shakespeare, or life. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. And not to everybody's taste. Yet you go into this anyway, knowing full well that it could-, "That is true. According to James, he's not the baddest in Shakespeare or in life because ultimately the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. We were just enacting an old, very famous experiment that you may have heard about. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. He won't answer. Um, this is one of the things that's, uh, this was one of the things that's sparked my interest in the topic of murder. You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. I might even tilt towards saying he's a little good to be honest. And that's all the difference in the world. He would have each subject sit down at a table. No, but there's part of me says, "You know, here's a guy who just wanted to do everything better than had ever been done before." This is Jeff Jensen and he's a reporter in LA. Thanks also to reporter Aaron Scott for that story. Podcasts; . And when you stick a seed, like a wheat seed in the ground. Just trying to imagine that. In- in other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. Well, Sam, what happened to this guy after World War I? Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. It is still trotted out to explain everything from hazing to war crimes. And the infinity of gray spaces in between. You wouldn't though. Here's what he did. This is RadioLab. All right. Their goal is to make the home buying process smoother for you. No reason. So, it's very-. As we continue listening to the Bad Show episode on human nature, our neighbors and ourselves, check out the Blank Slate by Steven Pinker available on Audible. And he goes home for a few days a hero. What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? It was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. Nice sky? With help from Shima Oliaee, Carter Hodge, and Lisa Yeger. Time's up. Okay. This is Radiolab, and today we're going to get back, so to speak. And you've done this how many times before. Okay. Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. Birds would just fall from the air. Meanwhile later that night, the other side of town. Meaning, any idea what was in his mind? And even when they do say yes, even when they go along with the experiment, as you can see in the film. RadioLab is supported by Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. Okay, it's all right, but we've got to know that. He was trying to repeat this masterstroke. That's like an adult blue whale of chlorine. He's standing there on the front pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. Y-P-R-E-S. Actually, the Americans called it Yeeps. Up until that point, Gary refused to say, "That from the minute I picked these women up, I wanted to kill them." This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial, quite literally. Uh, he's a master plotter. Because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it This trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy that's released, it could be used for life or death. He travels to the front. And when you stick a seed like weed seed in the ground-. This next part's a little graphic. And if they still were resisting or struggling, they'd get proud number three. Well if the idea is that people will do bad if they think it's good, if it's a good noble cause. They're trying to do the right thing. I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. Okay, we're going off tape now. It's a pretty big thing to miss (laughs) isn't it? Reviews . I- I- I would say in a powerful mood. It is, arguably, the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. Uh, she, uh, expressed disapproval about his, um, clothing choices. But in a famous incident, one of England's leading scientists refuses to shake his hand. Also from, uh, a Jewish family. He has a podcast. And you got to ask is the world better with him or without him? Radiolab is supported by Audible. Thanks. And he says, "Because of the rage." He was doing his great science work right around the turn of the 20th century; so right around 1900. But the guy is cut to shreds, he's allowed to confess. That is captured the nitrogen right out of the air. Uh, when- when asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60%. Yes 80 percent of the air is nitrogen atoms. That's one of the things we have to know, and that's why it's okay to let it out. But the generals were not all that convinced? He would deny things, he would obscure, he would dance around things. Then you're kind of done with them. Dan doesn't think so. Fact is if you don't continue, uh, we're going to discontinue the experiment. Making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. But that's just a- those are fantasies. He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty-, Saying, "You know the process that I used to make food? And so, we've decided that it's time to go back to something we did once upon a time when we were wondering about good and bad. Shoots herself in the chest. Visit our website. I'm not going to give you- I'm- I'm not going to help restore the sense that there is a moral order to the world and a moral norm. And I designed a little questionnaire where I simply asked the students, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" He figures out a way to take a lot of air that's filled with these little nitrogen bonds clinging to each other, and pump it with big iron tank. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. I mean-, So again, the baseline study is the one where 65 percent of the volunteers-, But in experiment number three, if they put the shock-ee in the same room-, With the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person that he's shocking-. The Bad Show Jul 27, 2018. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. And did you go back to the party then and continued dinner partying for a while? And I was just astonished-. Look. The fact that he kept on doing it over and over and over again was like, "Come on.". All right. "Well, why can't you deal with it in a normal way?" Obviously no need to be alarmed. The subjects are 40 males between the ages of 20 and 50. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you un-understandably evil man. Only then does God speak up and kind of say like, "You're going to question me? Prince-nez? So, Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. Thanks. "I just needed to kill because of that." But that's not what he found. And then, she said, "I actually did this. Within minutes the gas reached the Allied side. Which is a- a fairly small, you know, a small sort of town. Imagine they really had to administer shocks to themselves or something. So, he starts experimenting. Just to put that into context and to bring a few other of our storytellers in. And he hasn't talked about it with anyone until I interviewed him for the book. In that moment, my father, he stands up and he says. A box of ashes. Wasn't satisfied [inaudible 01:01:21] maybe mad 'cause she was very much in a hurry. If the experimenter is not a scientist, but is an ordinary man. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. I killed her. I mean, that was makebelieve, but if you could somehow get a real Iago in the room and subject that person to questioning, and really get him to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? Now that's important, it's very important. Gary says, "I needed to kill." She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. [inaudible 00:59:22] it's building up [inaudible 00:59:24]. He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. The Bad Show Listen Transcript Image credits: Adam Cole Cruelty, violence, badness. He, ultimately, spent 17 years searching for this man. Wasn't satisfying me, it made me mad that she was very much in a hurry, she had something else on her mind, and I killed her. Hey, it's Fred Kaufman, I'm calling to read the credits; here we go. Jul 28, 2018 And every time that guy got a word wrong-. Can't keep holding it all in. Clara comes from the same town. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then, separates your head, which is put on a post. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? And this is the difference between Kaiser Wilhelm and of course Hitler's Germany. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. Here it goes. And oddly enough, we got a really interesting take on the true nature of badness from this guy-. Was it nice day? And later that night, after party, Haber takes a bunch of sleeping pills, goes to sleep. And then he seemed fine. And as he was in the kitchen, looking stupid, peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently, so that he wouldn't suspect anything. Of course normally just have one experimenter who's giving you these instructions. 'cause actually he studied between 20 and 40 different variants of this same paradigm. Direct your voice toward that microphone in the room [inaudible 00:20:33]-, So they sit down in the chair thinking, "Wow, this is really important. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. The- the leaves would just sort of shrivel and the grass was turning to the color of metal. He started calling me a whore and told me he didn't love me anymore. And I used to socialize with him and his wife. It is still trotted out to explain everything from hazing to war crimes. He recruited a bunch of subjects. Visit our website. Although, clearly on some level they know it isn't. Let's just finish this. Did members of Haber's family die in the concentration camps? Humans. You've touched me. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. Yeah. An mlsconsumeraccess.org number 3030. Okay, well actually the one thing that the study really doesn't show is that people obey orders. So he decided he was going to invent a process to pay for these reparations by himself. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod, and this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006, total disobedience. And they're both secularized Jews. We're going to meet her later. And give up the few details that they really needed to link him, certifiably, to all these crimes. Just give me your finger, [crosstalk 00:09:28] I'm going to-. We're close to some really fundamental truths about human nature. And he says that's what people wanted. You mean they're looking at 20 million people hungry? Right? With all of the black-and-white moralizing in our world today, we decided to bring back an old show about the little bit of bad that's in all of us.and the little bit of really, _really _bad that's in some of us. And when nitrogen and hydrogen bond together, the thing you get-. Thank you Ben. This is actually mean to be bad anyways. This is basically what Stanley Milgram set out to test. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. Go on please. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. I'm [Clemmy Buttonhill 00:26:56], I'm here to tell you about the Open Airs Project, the new podcast form WNYC studios and WQXR, in which people share stories about the classical music that gets them through their lives. However, that leaves behind 20 million Germans. It's a pretty (bleep) thing to miss, isn't it really? You're telling us all this. "Willing to help and a worthwhile experiment.". So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. Like, saying like, "I don't want to kill a guy.". Hi, my name is Josh, and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. Well, let's talk about Fritz Haber. And I think what we want out of the why is meaning, meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and give us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. They're engaged with the test, they're trying to be good participants. The Gatekeeper | Radiolab Podcast - YouTube THE GATEKEEPER 0:00 / 48:50 Joyce Daubert takes Bendectin for nausea and Jason is born with birth defects The Gatekeeper | Radiolab Podcast. The good Iago who makes you want to shower the minute you leave the theater 'cause you are sullied by him. And it becomes Zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. Hmm. This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. What makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? The guy yelling, of course, was an actor, and the shocks weren't real. And, you know, my view about human nature is that it affords infinite potential for lightness and dark. So there's a way in which there's a touch of spark of humanity. Imagine they really were had to administer shocks to themselves or something. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. Would you really think that this guy's a good guy? "Why did you inflict all this suffering on them, on us? You're cut down before then. Radiolab weaves stories and science into sound and music-rich documentaries. What you know you know. They will invariably say something like, "They show that people obey orders." He says that he's always been hiring people based on how smart they are, and not who their grandparents were. She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. We want what Elizabethan's got at the scaffold, which was a confession. Dylan Keith is our director of sound design. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some Radiolab credit. What's interesting is that how all of these struggles, all of them, play out the same way. So, Sam what happened to this guy after World War I? So, he decided he was going to invent a process to pay for these reparations by himself and what he decided to do is go into the ocean, into seawater, which contains, um, uh, some very small levels of gold. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. And so when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. They couldn't deploy it, they couldn't deploy it. We will begin with this test-. Wore a little, um, uh, pince-nez? And so, 1918 Fritz Haber gets a Nobel Prize, but this is why he's such an interesting guy. And he said, to start, "You want to know about bad? Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. He had women participants. You need to admit this. Then he left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said yes. And on June 13th, 2003, Gary was secretly taken out of his jail cell and brought to this sort of very nondescript concrete ugly office building and, um, over the next six months from June to early December. He did this experiment a bunch of times in a bunch of different ways. And it's moving in about one meter per second. Why does God allow this to happen? A liquid. But if you put two experimenters in the room and-. That's radio producer Ben Walker. I thought about grabbing a knife quickly and stabbing him in the chest repeatedly until he was dead. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. This is just a tsunami of evil that passes through the play. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? 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