It was discovered during an antenna proof, when it was noticed there was a drop in signal strength in the main lobe and it was traced to this guys house. Thats easy to remember. Of course, we could say that sixty three times an hour, and if no one was listening, it wouldnt be that easy to remember. So, we had to do something to let people know we were there there. Disc Jockey Fat Daddy (a/k/a Jimmy Smith) cited statistics that out of 32,000 blacks in the potential audience, between 10,000 and 15,000 listened to the station. Bobby Blue Bland might have been the first KUXL show, appearing on July 22, 1964. Fan Feed More The OFFICIAL Fictional Radio Stations Wiki. In 2008, the station became WDGY after sister station 630 AM switched to Regional Mexican music, using the call letters WREY. We asked them what WPBC should be playing and it was almost unanimous that we should play the top 40, rock and roll, Stewart recalled. Each episode focuses on the issues, people and stories that impact the state. The gun-toting news director? Following Young's death in 1945, his estate sold the station. The station began broadcasting on July 1, 1965, as WMKT. Please enable JavaScript on your browser to best view this site. (Minneapolis Tribune, September 7, 1976), Pharoah Black introduced Earth Wind and Fire, with the Emotions and Wild Cherry at their October 7, 1976, concert at the Met Center. . WDGY "The Original Rock and Roll Station" was? In the summer, you waded through chest high weeds and as important as noting the amperage, was pulling (and, for sport, counting) any number of wood ticks that would jump on you for the ride (I counted 27 one day.). Efforts to find out who was playing that night were fruitless. It was baked in five pound slabs in a church basement and delivered just an hour before the deadline. Some took it hard. They continued to run the spots. In 1948 the Sepia Serenade show featured black recording stars, Mondays and Wednesdays from 6:15 to 6:45 pm. We have no airchecks, but ratings books from 1953 to 1955 do give us the names of programs that give hints as to what they were playing: KEYD was primarily a country station, with shows by Slim Jim and the Vagabond Kid and programs called Record Rodeo and Random Ranch. . Without their help, the site would have many less pages of radio history. This is a shot of the transmitter site of WDGY/1130AM radio, along 35W at about 102nd Street. However, you can still hear what is being discussed and the sound for the WDGY portion of the interview is unaffected. Stronger, clearer than ever before. Police said the wood snow fence frame beneath the paper had ignited at several points.. The KDAN Remote Caboose Studio was used in the early 1970s for commercial remote broadcasts and for broadcasting from the Minnesota State Fair. Then, thinking he may have over-reacted, returned to the studio to start the next song. What Storz did was apply the Top 40 concept to rock n roll. At 7 AM following the news we played popular music until signoff. Paul radio stations featuring recordings dating back to 1924, with many from the 19. A fair portion of its signal pointed away from populated areas, making it audible only to its intended audience in South and West St. Paul. Police said they did not use tear gas to break up the crowd. Or so reported the Minneapolis Tribune, the day after that. This aircheck has the music scoped out, but the commercials and promos are left in, providing a glimpse into the times. On August 28, Will Jones published an extended interview with Skotch. Some notes about this copy. Jim Dandy, Perry St. John, Scott Burton, George Young, B. Mason Dean. With a constant bombardment of loud jingles, the jocks would scream YEEEEWWWW ONE HUNDRED! and BOOGIE! when they werent giving the time, temperature (its 72 degrees in Frriiidleeeeey!) or bad jokes. Competition was fierce with five rock radio stations at the time, and compared to U100, WDGY, KDWB and KSTP seemed a bit tame in their original on-air presentation. The simple fact was that the black population was so small (less than one percent of the states population through 1970) that the community wasnt able to support one. There were other ways for Twin Citians to hear pre-WDGY rock n roll, of course: Records from Melodee Record Shop in Downtown Minneapolis, movies like Blackboard Jungle, and live performances of pop, jazz, and country acts. An invaluable source of information about the history of WDGY comes from a Masters Thesis written by Jerry Verne Haines in 1970. John Fineberg was at both stations during those years and described a KQRSI (KQRS and KRSI) family. WDGY (740 AM, " The True Oldies Channel ") is a daytime-only oldies radio station serving the Minneapolis-St. Paul area of Minnesota. At the time it was billed as The New WDGY Your Radioactive Station! Top 40s available from July 21, 1956 on do show that the playlist was definitely rock n roll, although they played a lot of cover versions and a lot of schmaltz. One song in 57 looks suspiciously local: Paddlin Ingabord Home by Ole The Singing Janitor. This photo was taken in 1969 after he came back to replace Rob Sherwood when he left for KDWB-AM. On WLOL. TeleVue magazine, 1980. Im guessing that KAAYs Beaker Street was influential here. At night (with 25,000 watts) you could hardly pick up the station 5 miles to the south of the site, but the signal had an effective radiated power of 300,000 watts to the north and went right over the North Pole into the Soviet Union. If you suffer from lusterless, uninteresting radio, etc., etc., come on down and put a little color in your life.. Garcia was so good that Colonel Parker pulled him off early so he wouldnt upstage Presley. For those who prefer to look on the gloomy side of things, there are always the daytime soap operas on television. They built their studio on Stinson Blvd. 1 Pick Revealed: Report Feb 27, 2023. All except for a little country station called K-COW. [2] I stopped and visited him one morning, and he lowered a Bob Dylan album for me. He came with no radio training at all in fact, he was a bartender but the station executives were impressed with his verbal fluency and vast knowledge of music. When WDGY began to play it, WDGY salesmen found an amazing reluctance on the part of advertisers to buy time on a station that was rated number two in the market. Merle Edwards was at WMIN from 1949-55 and had shows like Merle Edwards Caravan and Merles Mad House. Bill Diehl tells the story that a car dealer called Slawik Motors wanted to sponsor a show, but it insisted that the DJ call himself Hub Cap. The station approached Diehl, but he thought the idea was ridiculous he was a columnist for the St. Paul Pioneer Press, after all, and had a recognizable name. JAVASCRIPT IS DISABLED. Total information News, in-depth, authoritative, 1280s programming for metropolitan listeners has long been one of radios finest. The term we are using to describe this particular form of AOR is Coloradio. Our research and general observations indicate that this is the direction of AM Top 40 radio, so we may as well start now.. Last week Ed Skotch of KUXL announced plans to introduce features designed to cheer up the lonely housewives, and now Bill Stewart of WPBC says he has started a new format of happy music and other features of make people feel better.. It changed its format to Golden Rock on October 1, 1979. You will hear Jimmy promote the "All Americans,"you will hear one of the first Gatorade commercials and you will hear the WDGY promo for the WDGY Power Poll where one could win a Craig color TV (I thought this was radio?). Wee Gee spins the forgotten hits, the cruisin' classics, the legendary artists. He left in July 1957 to become Vice President of ABC in New York and was replaced by Jack Thayer. The following is from an email dated September 19, 2007, from Chuck Blore to Rick Burnett describing the Formula 63 and 63 Thats Easy to Remember promotions that Blore devised when KDWB first went on the air. Packhorse/Pecos Paul Denault -There was also a Packhorse Paul and/or a Pecos Paul same guy? Although authorized for only 500 watts from midnight to 4am, it had been broadcasting at full 5,000 watt strength since Crowell-Collier Broadcasting bought the station in late 1959. Stephen B. Labunski was made General Manager. See more about Preacher Paul on the Disc Jockeys page. We dug up the Colonel, I called and told him what we had in mind. All stations will soon be equipped with an echo chamber for ON AIR use. He was keeping the call letters their full potential had never been fully utilized. Its the swinginest!, In March 1958, WLOLs catchphrases were The Best Sound for Miles and Miles Around and Bigger, Better, Brighter than Ever.. Although Charles J. Lanphier of Milwaukee took out a construction permit for a new broadcast station on October 7, 1957, for some reason it took four years to be realized. Minneapolis Star, Thursday, August 20, 1964. Meanwhile, the old KUXL crew was plodding on. It was the old WPBC studio on Stinson Blvd., near Broadway, abandoned because of freeway construction. Tom Kilbride was a DJ at KANO from 1960 to 1965. (Minneapolis Daily Herald, August 8, 1962). The recordings on this site provide historical examples of Twin Cities radio and are intended for purposes of archival preservation and for research. Now that TV had grabbed everyones attention, and radio was just background music, he wanted to reverse the process and create The Nations Most Attention-Programmed Station. The key was to provide entertainment, but not with comedy or drama, but with ideas and thoughts. On December 29, 1972, KUXL announced that it was abandoning rhythm & blues in favor of a telephone talk show. CLICK IMAGE TO ENLARGE, WDGY's Johnny Dollar in a promotional photo from the mid-60's. Paul caught on fire and was off the air? The ad below boasts of their KUXL award for excellence in musical instruction. Pine was known for making people mad, and Dick Driscoll tells of coming on the air after Pine and having people call to yell at him for things Pine said. All the ways to listen: Seven ways to listen: FM 92.1, FM 103.7, AM 740, FM 107.1 HD2, Live Stream at WDGYradio.com, Smart Speakers through TuneIn and the WDGY Phone App. And, Im sure it was after checking with their attorney, one by one they dropped our little campaign. In 1948 the Sepia Serenade show featured black recording stars, Mondays and Wednesdays from 6:15 to 6:45 pm. WCOW was a precursor to KDWB, so it must have been another station. Then there was alternating R&B and Rap at various intervals. Contributed by John Pratt 12-6-07. Don French was the first Program Director. Donald plays godfather with his "Don" imitation and asks Charlie "What is black and blue and floats?" They could hear WDGY all across the AM dial, at points on the FM dial, on their CB radio base station, on their telephone, on their electronic organ, and(drum roll please)on their TOASTER! Heres one of the dune buggies. There were a bunch of people but no real activity. The State put it up for sale, and three cheeky guys, Roger Wilson, William Woods, and Dave Herman, put in a bid for $200. Johnny does a live Tastee Bread "Baked While You Sleep" spot, but the tape run out before he gets to finish. The stations address was given as 287 E 6th Street, St. Paul. So stunned were most of us, the gravity of situation was difficult to grasp. On the second tape from 1971, I noticed Bob Dayton has some spots with a county twang. WISK, soon to be known as KDWB, was at 630, a spot no one in the listening area had ever heard, or even heard of. Nick came up with WCOW, which was deemed somehow more dignified. It was also appropriate: their records were labeled either O for Old Time or W for Western. In April 1957 the station was owned by the BFR Broadcasting Corp., N.L. Meanwhile, they borrowed a little trailer studio from someone and that was our production room for the next month or so. At night, WDGY was very strong, but could never be received clearly. Fairchild subsequently dismissed the entire staff and overhauled both stations. ..This is the true story of the birth of U100. Station Frequency Format . Allegedly, the Stewarts would go so far as to use the sharp end of a compass to scratch away the grooves of tracks on albums that didnt meet their standards of nice music, in order to prevent rebellious D.J.s from playing them. WDGY 1130 AM MINNEAPOLIS / ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA Week: 1963-03-18 Format: T40 WDGY 1130 - MINNEAPOLIS - ST. PAUL TIGER TUNES WEEK BEGINNING MARCH 18, 1963 TW LW 1. Today, the station is KTLK, News/Talk 1130, and uses a transmitter site in Credit River Township. Oh the Cookie Station KDWB!!! and Falvey Cross Road [Wayzata Blvd. The names of the shows were pretty ambiguous: In most cases programs were identified by the names of the DJs: Personalities selling time in this 1953 broadcasting magazine were, January 19, 1953 ad Courtesy mnkidvid.com. The fire department didnt want us beginning the clean up until the inspector could make sure the building was safe to enter. About 350 young people, mostly black (Ill use that word instead of the word Negro used at that time) were in attendance. My wife and I had long discussions late into the evening. CopyrightWDGY Radio. WCCO, by far the Twin Cities most powerful station, called us to express their outrage and to let us know, Were taking this whole fraudulent farce to the FCC. WDGY Jocks teamed up with professionals Ed Kalafat, Bobby Cox, Jim Springer, and Corky Devlin, possibly former Minneapolis Lakers. It had 50,000 watts during the day and 25,000 at night. Clockwise from Jack are Bill Diehl, Don Kelly, Dan Daniel, Stanley Mack, and Ramsburg. I was a young kid when I first listened to WDGY and KDWB. Much More Music is simply that WDGY played, and is playing, more music with the bright pace of the modern sound. Minneapolis Star, Thursday, September 24, 1964. The ever-blessed Will Jones announced on June 5, 1964: KUXL is airing jazz. Proceeds were to be divided between the Minneapolis and St. Paul Community Chests. (Minneapolis Tribune, January 2, 1973), For the first time since 1973, black music was again on the radio, with a new disc jockey named Pharoah Black (nee Thornton Jones). During the KFMX days, one of the frequent sponsors was the Leaning Post. Radiotapes.com has an aircheck by DJ Phil Conklin playing The Music You Wanna Hear, submitted by Al Arneson. CLICK TO ENLARGE, Donald K. Martin at The Pavek Hall of Fame Dinner, October 2006. Although I dont normally provide snapshots of FM stations, this one is pretty interesting. Ill tell it right when I find it again. The show was called Rhythm n Blues Time. By the 1960s, the station didn't use the name itself, but the name stuck among people in the radio industry for many years to come. Below are the same four staff members that were pictured in the piece above, in a print ad. 589 talking about this. They are posted here for historical examples of top 40 radio from one of the originators, Storz. KDWBs general manager at the time, Gary Stevens, claimed that they did not buy WYOO-FM to shut down a competitor, but rather to take advantage of what they saw as a good deal. Jones explained how Schoenbohm (whom he calls Dave for some reason) and Kamman had talked the management into limited hours for jazz, and then slowly increased. On other pages of this site I also have some airchecks (in addition to tape from my personal collection)I obtained directly from others. The company engineers actually had to install coils to de-tune the water tower before the license could be approved for 50kw operation. He was hired to do the jazz show, but moved to take over the R&B show when that opened up. That November Ty Mack put in some hours, and it was now Autumn Serenade. Kash Box was apparently an advertising gimmick. WDGY, Rock and Roll Oldies Radio, playing the best oldies of the 1960s and 1970s for the Twin Cities! Oh so many levels. CLICK ON IMAGES TO ENLARGE, WDGY Donald K. Martin contributed this undated from the late 60's - early 70's. This is Jim Dandy's (Jim Evarts) second time at WDGY-AM. Seems to be half and half in the photo below, mid-1960s. For his own protection, his real identity was kept secret. Will Jones tells us that security was so tight that the 120,000 packages were stuffed at the Society for the Blind. The Sisters version sold six times better. After the war, Kamman produced We Call it Jazz concerts at the Calhoun Beach Hotel and hosted The Swing Club on WLOL. More great stuff is on http://twincitiesradioairchecks.com/wdgy1130tapes.html. Wonder what E.I.I. The studio and transmitter were located at 158 N. White Bear Ave., St. Paul. Then on Wednesday, July 8, 1964, were back to the old KUXL! The turning point came one night around Christmas 1955 when we turned in the Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey Show on TV and they had on Elvis Presley, Stewart remembered. The ad below is for Position 63, a rather suggestive takeoff of the popular Position 69 that every schoolboy loved to joke about. decade KDWB-FM was picked up by Chancellor Media. The Future is Now (bbzztt) The Future is Y-11, At 3 pm, September 2, 1977, the station changed its format again, this time to country. The memory music format was enlarged, a jingle by Herb Pilhofer was created, and talk shows were produced. Herb Oscar Anderson was the first disk jockey on the air with the new Top 40 rock n roll format that morning, and the jocks and the new sounds boosted the station from a tepid Number 4 to second place behind behemoth WCCO. I purchased some of the WDGY airchecks from collector Arron Mintz in Maine. Luxurious digs, no? says Curt. At that point, having lost the opportunity to peacefully arrest the young man, the police decided to use nightsticks to bar the door to the hall, keeping the people in. This station was pretty freewheeling and one could hear Jimmy Dean in the same breath as the Supremes. Rhythm [in 1955] and played the real soul of rhythm and blues. First, the typos are NOT mine this time. Wikipedia says the stations last documented owner was KMAP Broadcasting of Tampa. Im going to jump back a little into the chronology of events at the station after listing all of the concerts I could find. This page contains some rare tapes recorded off the air during the 50's 60's and 70's. The building itself was very dark. . On August 22, 1978, a construction permit was approved to increase the stations power to 2.5 kw. It was perhaps the only American commercial radio station the Russians had to jam to prevent their people from hearing all that decadent American Rock & Roll! There was a live broadcast at 9:15 a.m. and a performance at Graham Temple at 3 p.m. A December 1951 ad said [Cassiuss] Bamboo Room is KEYED for your enjoyment, which may or may not mean that there was a tie-in. Don's mother preferred that he work at a country station. The Temptations came to the Marigold on October 16, 1966, and police had to be called when 800 to 1,000 people on the sidewalk got impatient waiting to buy tickets at the one ticket booth. Today, the station is KTLK, News/Talk 1130, and uses a transmitter site in Credit River Township. Jones described him as a mild-mannered, blond, pipe-smoking sort, who grew up in Chicago and worked in radio as a writer, director, and producer on radio shows and in TV when that city was its center of the early days. At the same time, the station will be entering the background music field, supplying a separate channel of music to supermarkets, offices, plants, and other installations, reported the Minneapolis Daily Herald on August 8, 1962. A daily show dedicated to Whoopie John records, Melody Hall with Mort Garren, 11 to 3 pm, Album Parade with Jack Hyatt, 3 to 8 pm, German, Polish, Country, Old-Time: 15 percent, Shows with Don Hawkins, Johnny Morris, and Jimmy Valentine, Shows with Henry J. Taylor, Bill Ingram, and Don Riley, Suburban Editorial, with editors of 12 suburban newspapers editorializing on the air throughout the week, A two-hour show featuring audience calls discussing some controversial or current issue, The all-time, sock, dynamite hits, on 15 reels of tape, 32 or 33 songs to a reel. That wouldnt happen until daylight. The station's studios and offices are in Lakeland, Minnesota, while its transmitter is off Commerce Drive near Interstate 94 in Hudson. It also provided local-oriented public service information on groups like Y.E.S., Pharm House, Red Door, Womens Counseling Service, and more. KRSI personalities in this second Request Radio stint included Don Thompson, Jerry Anderson, Mike Records Ryan, Ray Walby and Bill Hutchinson., Urban Adult Contemporary (SMN Heart and Soul) 1988, Hard Rock (Satellite Music Networks Z-Rock) as KZOW (1988-1990), Business Radio Network (as KJJO), 1990-1992, R&B Oldies as KSGS (ABC Solid Gold Soul) with local AM Drive) (9-5-0 Solid Gold Soul), 1995-1999, Urban Adult Contemporary (ABC The Touch) with local AM Drive), 1999-2001, Business Radio as KDOW, then KCCO (Business 9-5-0), 2001-2004, KRSI-FM (104.1) went on the air for the first time on about September 1, 1962. Its billed as the Ike and Tina Turner Revue, complete with nine-piece band, singers Bobby John and Jimmy Thomas and a girl trio called the Ikettes. So if you went into a Red Owl store to shop, there would be a voice saying something like, Want to perk up family meals. I sure miss those days. Jim provided this aircheck of Johnny Canton. One day the station was just there, offering gimmicky, women-slanted programs, not attracting much attention. No doubt the Random Ranch show was similar. Larry Bentson, President. This ad appeared in March 1964. Yonny Yonson played old time (polkas, waltzes and shoddiches) from 9 am to noon and 3-6 pm. The station finally landed at the great 1130 on March 24, 1941, when all of the local stations were repositioned. There, at 63, where no Minnesotan had gone before. Ive been ignoring this station because I couldnt believe that Bill and Becky Ann would ever broadcast anything resembling rock n roll, but listen to this, from an article of the TV section of the Minneapolis Tribune, September 7, 1969: Anybody who has heard WPBC in recent years might have found it ludicrous to have listed to founder-owner Bill Steward the other morning as he remembered the tough radio days of 1954 and 1955. To celebrate its first anniversary, WDGY is happy to present this album of YESTERHITS FROM YESTERDAY. It includes a collection of twelve of the greatest hits from the last year. I remember that the No. A memo to the staff from Todd Storz dated May 28, 1956 singles out the gang at WDGY for a job well done. The station was the first to put in the companys prepackaged Great American Country service. Lord Jeffrey, (Jeff Diamond) came to work at KUXL in 1967, when he was about 15 years old. Check out airchecks and more at RadioTapes.com, where the home page features newly-discovered TV commercials from 1974 1975. This shot of him in the WDGY DJ control room is one of the better quality shots showing the Gates control board. On October 3, 1955, an ad boasted that the station would play more music and had a new record library. In 1974 the Wolfman was into many projects, including a weekly syndicated show that was broadcast here on KDWB. An article in the Star said the show included skits, blackouts, parodies on talk and telephone shows, and interviews. Although the show was an hour long, KQ began by airing a half-hour version at 10 pm on Sundays. KEEY seemed to specialize in handing out these FM radio station directories, which seem to me to advertise the competition more than anything else. In January 1956 Will Jones of the Trib talks about KEYD radios new staff of imported hillbillies, Texas Bill Strength and Johnny T. from Tennessee. The most interesting thing about working there at the time was feeling the surge of relevance the station had regained on since taking on the Country format. See the new transmitter here courtesy www.radiotapes.com, Aerial shot of the 9-tower array courtesy Tom Gavaras. The call letters were also WLOL. If it doesnt do, Ill be back in the rat race.. Glory of Love by the Four Knights. In an interview given for the Rondo Oral History Project of the Minnesota Historical Society, Yusef Mgeni remembered that KUXL was a strange hybrid type of station. Supposedly, a gentleman that lived within the main lobe of the pattern had decided to wind copper around his attic and, with an appropriate capacitor, made a tuned circuit at 1130 which allowed him to power his florescent lights. Listen to our News/Talk 1130 WISN podcasts here! Minneapolis black population had been consistently at or below 1 percent from 1870 to 1940. WDGY's Charlie Van Dyke & Donald K. Martin in the studio during their morning show. The song list included such gems as You Clobbered Me, Ink Dries Quicker Than Tears, Lie Detector, and Take Your Cotton-Pickin Hands Off My Girl. The station had been playing some Top-10, Classical, semi-classical, some religious, etc. A policeman knocked down pregnant woman, pulled her hair, and threw her into a wall. I hope to get some late 60's clips up on the site soon. The station again went dark, this time for good, but when? I always respected his unusually creative approach to all things radio. No electricity. June 18, WWTC radio replaces every bit of music with news. The material was from the then-unpublished autobiography that appeared as Okay, Okay, I Wrote the Book in 2012. The show, Pharoah Blacks Soul Til Sundown, began on May 1, 1975, and ran from 7 pm until sundown. Mid 60's photo of WDGY's Johnny Dollar on the back of a Honda being driven by a constest winner. At the time it was programming Classical music. The caption to the photo below, from Minnesota Music magazine, 1980, reads. You can hear some of Herbs patter from September 7, 1956, on Tom Gavarass RadioTapes Web site: radiotapes.com/WDGY.html. Here are some possibilities: Rock n rolls roots lie in pop, country, and most important, rhythm and blues. This is a shot of the transmitter site of WDGY/1130AM radio, along 35W at about 102nd Street. The precursor to KDWB was founded in 1951 by Nick, Vic and Al Tedesco, sons of Italian immigrants from the province of Calabria. Oh wait! Don reminded me about the Colonel and his pitch prowess. [In 1961, when the KFWB was having labor trouble, the owner shipped some Minnesota DJs to LA to cover.] The exact date of the change seems a little murky (unlike the very sharp change to country below), but experts say it was probably in January 1977. 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